to catch red-handed

Latin translation: in flagranti delicto exceptus, -a, -um/deprehensus, -a, -um

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English term or phrase:to catch red-handed
Latin translation:in flagranti delicto exceptus, -a, -um/deprehensus, -a, -um
Entered by: Joseph Brazauskas

11:04 Jan 29, 2010
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English term or phrase: to catch red-handed
Greetings,

I'm not sure which verb should be used here; furthermore, I am greatly confused as I find both in flagranti and in flagrante – surely both can't be right?

All the best, and many thanks,

Simon
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in flagranti delicto exceptus, -a, -um/deprehensus, -a, -um
Explanation:
'Exceptus' means 'caught unawares', 'deprehensus' (contracted form: 'deprensus') means 'caught by surprise'. 'Flagranti' is the preferred form here, for the reason which I explained in my note to Ms. Askew's rendering, that is, it's here used adjectivally, qualifying 'delicto'.

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However, my rendering above means 'caught red-handed'; 'to catch red-handed' is '(aliquem) in flagranti delicto excipere' or 'deprehendere'.
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many thanks excellent - sorry about the delay
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in flagranti delicto exceptus, -a, -um/deprehensus, -a, -um


Explanation:
'Exceptus' means 'caught unawares', 'deprehensus' (contracted form: 'deprensus') means 'caught by surprise'. 'Flagranti' is the preferred form here, for the reason which I explained in my note to Ms. Askew's rendering, that is, it's here used adjectivally, qualifying 'delicto'.

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However, my rendering above means 'caught red-handed'; 'to catch red-handed' is '(aliquem) in flagranti delicto excipere' or 'deprehendere'.

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many thanks excellent - sorry about the delay

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agree  ipv: agree with your note as well
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in flagrante delicto


Explanation:
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in flagrante delicto
English translation: [caught] in the act
Entered by: Marian Greenfield

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however
absolutely loads of references for

in flagrantI delicto

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=flagranti de...

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however

279 hits for flagrantI

4,910 for flagrante

also, Marian Greenfield is very knowledgeable in this field.

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Definition "in flagranti" in the Collins English Dictionary ...
in flagranti definition : in flagrante delicto adv (Chiefly law) while committing the offence; red-handed, (Also) flagrante delicto (Latin, literally: with ...
dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/in%20flagranti - United States - Similar

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in flagrante delicto
adv.
Flagrante delicto.
[New Latin in flagrante dlict : Latin in, in; see in-2 + Medieval Latin flagrante dlict, while the crime is blazing; see flagrante delicto.]

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
in flagrante delicto [ɪn fləˈgræntɪ dɪˈlɪktəʊ]
adv
(Law) Chiefly law while committing the offence; red-handed Also flagrante delicto
[Latin, literally: with the crime still blazing]

liz askew
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neutral  Joseph Brazauskas: 'Flagranti' is the better form here, since participles used adjectivally ordinarily employ the i-stem form in the ablative, while those used substantively employ -e. Cf. Allen & Greenough, Latin Grammar, § 121.a.1f. But you did not translate 'caught'.
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  -> Just quoting Marian, who is pretty expert in this field. I am no expert on Latin.
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Reference information:
International law in historical perspective - Google Books Result
J. H. W. Verzijl - 1978 - Law - 547 pages
... not be convicted on a charge of espionage, for which he could be tried only if captured in flagranti delicto. The acquittal was based, on the one hand, ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=9028601481...

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