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othering

German translation: Veranderung , Ver-anderung

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English term or phrase:othering (Husserl,Wittgenstein etc)
German translation:Veranderung , Ver-anderung
Entered by: Johanna Timm, PhD

21:06 Jan 26, 2004
English to German translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy / Writings of Husserl
English term or phrase: othering
Es geht um die postmoderne Kritik und Philosophien Husserls, Wittgensteins usw.

It is, as Husserl says, experientially obvious that I and the other perceive the same thing, although my perceptions belong to me and the other's perceptions belong to the other (9/389). The world is immediately experienced as one and the same, although it appears to each experiencer in a particular way (3/60[55]). This OTHERING can serve as a leading clue for further investigation.
Erik Macki
Local time: 07:54
Veranderung (ja, ohne Umlaut!)
Explanation:
1. Im soziologischen/ethnologischen Kontext wird Othering als Ausgrenzung übersetzt:
"othering": Othering occurs when a group is described in a way that makes that group seem inferior to, or different from, one's own.
http://www.shawnplunkett.com/data/(Test 1) Study Sheet.doc



2. In englischen Uebersetzungen von Hegels Werken erscheint 'othering' als die Entsprechung für 'Anderswerden'
http://www.publicsphere.net/philosophy/ thinkers/hegeldicta_e.htm


3. Husserl/Wittgenstein
Der Begriff der „Veranderung“ wird von Theunissen – nicht von Husserl selbst –verwandt, um die Konsequenz der Einfühlung eines fremden Ichs in den Anderen zu charakterisieren. Hier geht es nicht um dialogische, unmittelbare Kommunikation, sondern immer um die, durch die Einfühlung in alter egos Perspektive auf mich erfahrene, „Veranderung“ auf Basis der visuellen Wahrnehmung.)


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Note added at 7 hrs 8 mins (2004-01-27 04:15:04 GMT)
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Here\'s another source:
\"Such approaches are thus irremediably entangled in a politics of identity that not only aims to save an alleged authenticity of that which is one\'s own against a similarly alleged identity of (white male) Western thought, instrumental reason, Enlightenment and universalism, but in doing so also builds on a concept of identity that does not refer to othering (Veranderung) but to the determinable identity of an alleged other and that determines the singular human being through this fixation in belonging.\"
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ces/conference2002/papers/h6_frie...
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Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 07:54
Grading comment
These are excellent resources. I myself had landed on the term Alterierung in Habermas and was trying to do Google searches with that term--but Veranderung (also spelled Ver-anderung) is indeed the correct answer! I appreciate your effort and extensive citations.
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5Veranderung (ja, ohne Umlaut!)
Johanna Timm, PhD
2Konstituierung des Anderen
Norbert Hermann


  

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Konstituierung des Anderen


Explanation:
Falls du nach einer deutschen Uebersetzung suchst.

Ethnographie – „als primärer Prozess der Produktion von Bildern des Anderen“ (engl. Neologismus:Othering)16erfährt dabei innerhalb der

Norbert Hermann
Local time: 15:54
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
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"Konstituierung des Anderen" is a good circumlocution but isn't precisely the term used in Husserl, Wittgenstein, Hegel, etc.
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Comment: "Konstituierung des Anderen" is a good circumlocution but isn't precisely the term used in Husserl, Wittgenstein, Hegel, etc.

7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Veranderung (ja, ohne Umlaut!)


Explanation:
1. Im soziologischen/ethnologischen Kontext wird Othering als Ausgrenzung übersetzt:
"othering": Othering occurs when a group is described in a way that makes that group seem inferior to, or different from, one's own.
http://www.shawnplunkett.com/data/(Test 1) Study Sheet.doc



2. In englischen Uebersetzungen von Hegels Werken erscheint 'othering' als die Entsprechung für 'Anderswerden'
http://www.publicsphere.net/philosophy/ thinkers/hegeldicta_e.htm


3. Husserl/Wittgenstein
Der Begriff der „Veranderung“ wird von Theunissen – nicht von Husserl selbst –verwandt, um die Konsequenz der Einfühlung eines fremden Ichs in den Anderen zu charakterisieren. Hier geht es nicht um dialogische, unmittelbare Kommunikation, sondern immer um die, durch die Einfühlung in alter egos Perspektive auf mich erfahrene, „Veranderung“ auf Basis der visuellen Wahrnehmung.)


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Note added at 7 hrs 8 mins (2004-01-27 04:15:04 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Here\'s another source:
\"Such approaches are thus irremediably entangled in a politics of identity that not only aims to save an alleged authenticity of that which is one\'s own against a similarly alleged identity of (white male) Western thought, instrumental reason, Enlightenment and universalism, but in doing so also builds on a concept of identity that does not refer to othering (Veranderung) but to the determinable identity of an alleged other and that determines the singular human being through this fixation in belonging.\"
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ces/conference2002/papers/h6_frie...


    Reference: http://fischer-joachim.org/protokoll_ps/16_5%20Theunissen%5B...
Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 07:54
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 31
Grading comment
These are excellent resources. I myself had landed on the term Alterierung in Habermas and was trying to do Google searches with that term--but Veranderung (also spelled Ver-anderung) is indeed the correct answer! I appreciate your effort and extensive citations.
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