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subversiveness

German translation: (der ihnen anhaftende/eigene) subversive Charakter / ihr potenziell subversiver Charakter

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English term or phrase: (their inherent) subversiveness German translation: (der ihnen anhaftende/eigene) subversive Charakter / ihr potenziell subversiver Charakter Entered by: Steffen Walter

08:57 Jun 10, 2009

English to German translations [PRO] Tech/Engineering - Internet, e-Commerce
English term or phrase: subversiveness In fact, part of the appeal of the folksonomy is its inherent subversiveness: when faced with the choice of the search tools that Web sites provide, folksonomies can be seen as a rejection of the search engine status quo in favour of tools that are created by the community.	martina1974 KudoZ activity Questions: 5045 (5 open) (25 closed without grading) Answers: 11 Austria Local time: 01:17
(der ihnen anhaftende) subversive Charakter / ihr potenziell subversiver Charakter Explanation: gem. Kontext -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 14 mins (2009-06-10 09:11:32 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- ...wobei "potenziell" frei übersetzt ist, sich aber in Deinem Kontext aufdrängt. Oder näher am AT: ihr inhärent subversiver Charakter.	Selected response from: Anja C. Switzerland Local time: 01:17
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3 +6	(der ihnen anhaftende) subversive Charakter / ihr potenziell subversiver Charakter	Anja C.
4	umstürzlerische Botschaft (hier)	Vittorio Ferretti
3	Subversivität	Angelika Lautz

Discussion entries: 9

Anja C. Switzerland @Aniello 09:47 Jun 10, 2009  Na hoffentlich. Sonst gibt's irgendwann ein böses Erwachen... ;-)! Aniello Scognamiglio (X) Germany ... 09:43 Jun 10, 2009  Lehrer sollten "subversiv" verstehen :-) martina1974 Austria ASKER 09:38 Jun 10, 2009  Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe! Das E-Learning-Handbuch ist für Lehrer bestimmt, und in diesem Kapitel geht es um Folksonomies, Tagging und Metadaten. Anja C. Switzerland @Aniello 09:32 Jun 10, 2009  Aber Übersetzungen für "subversiv" liefert jedes Wörterbuch. Hier geht's m.E. eher um die Formulierungshilfe. Aber ev. will Martina selbst was dazu sagen...? PS: Die Jugendlichen/Rentner (?) die "subversiv" nicht kennen, werden auch bei "status quo" anstehen... Aniello Scognamiglio (X) Germany Nicht jeder ist Übersetzer ;-) 09:29 Jun 10, 2009  Angenommen, der E-Learning-Kurs ist für Jugendliche oder Rentner: Ich denke nicht, dass "subversiv" zum allgemeinen Sprachgebrauch gehört. Anja C. Switzerland @Aniello 09:25 Jun 10, 2009  Bin nicht auf dem Laufenden ;-). Aber "subversiv" ist doch allgemein gebräuchlich/verständlich - oder lebe ich im Elfenbeinturm? Aniello Scognamiglio (X) Germany E-Learning 09:24 Jun 10, 2009  @Anja: Wenn ich mich recht entsinne, lautet das Thema "E-Learning", oder befinde ich mich auf einem neuen Schiff? "folksonomy" scheint ein Kapitel zu sein, das nur "angekratzt" wird, daher meine Bemerkung "Zielgruppe beachten". Vielleicht kann Martina noch etwas dazu sagen? Angelika Lautz Spain 09:08 Jun 10, 2009  Stell das doch ein, Anja, "subversiver Charakter" klingt doch sehr gut, noch besser als "Subversivität" Anja C. Switzerland ihre inhärente Subversivität oder ihr inhärent... 09:00 Jun 10, 2009  subversiver Charakter. Was spricht gegen eine wörtliche Übersetzung? Oder ohne "inhärent" -> der ihnen anhaftende subversive Charakter. Ich gebe dies nicht als Antwort ein, weil ich nicht sicher bin, was für Dich unklar ist. Automatic update in 00:

  

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umstürzlerische Botschaft (hier) Explanation: IMO	Vittorio Ferretti Local time: 01:17 Specializes in field Native speaker of: German PRO pts in category: 8
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Subversivität Explanation: ...	Angelika Lautz Spain Local time: 01:17 Native speaker of: German
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(der ihnen anhaftende) subversive Charakter / ihr potenziell subversiver Charakter Explanation: gem. Kontext -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 14 mins (2009-06-10 09:11:32 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- ...wobei "potenziell" frei übersetzt ist, sich aber in Deinem Kontext aufdrängt. Oder näher am AT: ihr inhärent subversiver Charakter.	Anja C. Switzerland Local time: 01:17 Native speaker of: German PRO pts in category: 16
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  Aniello Scognamiglio (X): Bueno! Auch: "der *innewohnende* subversive Charakter". Je nach Zielgruppe müsste man "subversiv" ggf. eindeutschen. 5 mins   -> danke, Aniello! Das Ganze klingt für mich nach soziologischem Kontext, da kann man "subversiv" m.E. getrost stehen lassen. agree  Rolf Keiser: ich finde "subversiv" im soziologischen Gebrauch durchaus gerechtfertigt 12 mins   -> danke! agree  Steffen Walter: der ihr/ihnen eigene... 18 mins   -> ja, auch :-) - danke, Steffen! agree  Katia DG 40 mins   -> danke, Katja! agree  Angelika Lautz 1 hr   -> danke, Angelika! agree  Inge Meinzer 4 hrs   -> danke, Inge!
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