cane body

Finnish translation: korista tehty pinta sivupaneelissa

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English term or phrase:cane body
Finnish translation:korista tehty pinta sivupaneelissa
Entered by: Alfa Trans (X)

09:38 May 10, 2008
English to Finnish translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Automotive / Cars & Trucks / automotive
English term or phrase: cane body
Moi,

vuoden 1928 Chrysler Imperial Touralettea kuvataan sanoin: ...two-door model, with retractable roof and cane body.

Mikä ihmeen cane body. Kuvia löytyy cooglen kuvahaulla, mutta en silti tajua. Canelle en ole löytänyt mitään sopivanoloista käännöstä.
Satu Wiren
Local time: 02:06
korista tehty pinta sivupaneelissa
Explanation:
Locke & Companyn kehittämä tyylisuunta Chrysler-autoihin, joissa 1920-luvulla oli autojen sivupaneeleissa oli korista tehdyt koristeet (myöhemmin jäljennökset, koska oikea materiaali kuivui).

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Canework: a Body styling feature; article in CC 3/80 on canework applied to the 1930 Cadillac V16 style 4264B (inter alia); same issue has an article on the V16. Classic Car for 3/1980 and summer 2006 have some information on canework as applied (1) to the Cadillac V-16 and (2) to a restored 1929 Rolls Royce by Brewster. The latter reads: ...Art Soutter (the last employee at the [Rolls-Royce] Springfield plant ...) [said] that the Brewster company had one employee who used thickened paint and squeezed it through a tool, as you would decorate a cake. The [twin?] horizontal lines were applied first, followed by the vertical then the diagonal. Decorative canework or "French cane" was used on car bodies from the beginnings of the automobile; it became a popular feature on formal European coach-work in the twenties. Initially real cane was used but the results and durability were mediocre. Applied later by hand with a paint mixture from a tube, it was a tiresome and expensive operation. In the late teens France introduced the "cloth-paste" method which was easier to apply; cost was also reduced because the new method did not need so many coats of primer or base paint. All the painter had to do was measure exactly the size and shape of each panel to be thus decorated and make simple templates for the cane supplier. There were two methods of applying the pre-cut cane-cloth panels. The first was to glue them in place with a special mixture of glue; two coats of varnish were applied after the glue had dried at least 24 hours and a copper or cane beading applied to outline each panel. The other method was to apply a thick coat of varnish and press the cane panels into place before the varnish got too dry; finally two further light coats of clear varnish were applied. The cane design came in a number of sizes, the most popular being sizes 55 (approx. ½" between rows) and 90 (approx. ¾" between rows). When correctly applied the double [twin] lines of "cane" form the horizontal and vertical part of the design, with the single lines as the diagonals [LaC (circa 1919), pp. 338 and 341].

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Olisi kai parempi sanoa rottingista tehty sivupaneeli : )

Molemmat kuulostavat yhtä oudoilta tässä yhteydessä.

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Note added at 8 days (2008-05-19 06:30:29 GMT) Post-grading
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Lisään vielä tähän käännöksen puukehikko, joka on Chryslerin asiantuntijan antama tieto.
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Summary of answers provided
5ruokoa jäljittelevä korirakenne
Desmond O'Rourke
4Ruokopunosjäljitelmä (auton takaosassa)
Luka23
3 +1korista tehty pinta sivupaneelissa
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
ruokoa jäljittelevä korirakenne


Explanation:
Auton takaosan ruokoa jäljittelevä korirakenne näkyy linkeistä.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-05-10 14:52:16 GMT)
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Based on Marju's feedback, rottinkia jäljittelevä korirakenne would be a closer translation but, as the links make clear, the model in question does use a painted decoration and not genuine cane as such.


    Reference: http://www.imperialclub.com/Articles/28Imperial/43.jpg
    Reference: http://www.imperialclub.com/Articles/28Imperial/44.jpg
Desmond O'Rourke
United States
Local time: 19:06
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Alfa Trans (X): ruoko on hieman eri asia: http://www.ruoko.fi/ ja http://www.ymparisto.fi/default.asp?contentid=247909&lan=fi&...
44 mins
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2 days 23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Ruokopunosjäljitelmä (auton takaosassa)


Explanation:
kuvalinkin kuvatekstissä sanotaan, että auton takaosan pellin päälle on käsin maalattu ruokopunoskuvio. Se on samanlainen kuin joissakin huonekaluissa on nykyisin aitona. Eli tämä ei ole runkorakenne, vaan metallikorin päälle maalattu koriste.

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Note added at 3 days23 hrs (2008-05-14 09:11:32 GMT)
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Ok, tosi on että sitä sanotaan yleisimmin rottingiksi. Eli siinä tapauksessa Rottinkijäljitelmä (auton takaosassa). Kantavaa runkoa se ei ole, koska kyse on vain korin pintaan maalatusta koristuksesta.

Luka23
Spain
Local time: 01:06
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FinnishFinnish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Vaikeeksi menee, on mielipidettä ja tietoa kumpaankin suuntaan. Mutta eikö se kuitenkin ole rottinkia eikä ruokoa?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Alfa Trans (X): Chryslerin mukaan olet väärässä.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
korista tehty pinta sivupaneelissa


Explanation:
Locke & Companyn kehittämä tyylisuunta Chrysler-autoihin, joissa 1920-luvulla oli autojen sivupaneeleissa oli korista tehdyt koristeet (myöhemmin jäljennökset, koska oikea materiaali kuivui).

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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-05-10 12:58:22 GMT)
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Canework: a Body styling feature; article in CC 3/80 on canework applied to the 1930 Cadillac V16 style 4264B (inter alia); same issue has an article on the V16. Classic Car for 3/1980 and summer 2006 have some information on canework as applied (1) to the Cadillac V-16 and (2) to a restored 1929 Rolls Royce by Brewster. The latter reads: ...Art Soutter (the last employee at the [Rolls-Royce] Springfield plant ...) [said] that the Brewster company had one employee who used thickened paint and squeezed it through a tool, as you would decorate a cake. The [twin?] horizontal lines were applied first, followed by the vertical then the diagonal. Decorative canework or "French cane" was used on car bodies from the beginnings of the automobile; it became a popular feature on formal European coach-work in the twenties. Initially real cane was used but the results and durability were mediocre. Applied later by hand with a paint mixture from a tube, it was a tiresome and expensive operation. In the late teens France introduced the "cloth-paste" method which was easier to apply; cost was also reduced because the new method did not need so many coats of primer or base paint. All the painter had to do was measure exactly the size and shape of each panel to be thus decorated and make simple templates for the cane supplier. There were two methods of applying the pre-cut cane-cloth panels. The first was to glue them in place with a special mixture of glue; two coats of varnish were applied after the glue had dried at least 24 hours and a copper or cane beading applied to outline each panel. The other method was to apply a thick coat of varnish and press the cane panels into place before the varnish got too dry; finally two further light coats of clear varnish were applied. The cane design came in a number of sizes, the most popular being sizes 55 (approx. ½" between rows) and 90 (approx. ¾" between rows). When correctly applied the double [twin] lines of "cane" form the horizontal and vertical part of the design, with the single lines as the diagonals [LaC (circa 1919), pp. 338 and 341].

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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-05-10 13:05:25 GMT)
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Olisi kai parempi sanoa rottingista tehty sivupaneeli : )

Molemmat kuulostavat yhtä oudoilta tässä yhteydessä.

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Note added at 8 days (2008-05-19 06:30:29 GMT) Post-grading
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Lisään vielä tähän käännöksen puukehikko, joka on Chryslerin asiantuntijan antama tieto.


    Reference: http://www.car-nection.com/cadillacdatabase/dbas_txt/Facta-c...
    Reference: http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/l/locke/locke.htm
Alfa Trans (X)
Local time: 02:06
Native speaker of: Finnish
PRO pts in category: 38
Notes to answerer
Asker: Eli pinta voisi olla oikeaki vielä vuoden 28 mallissa Marjun vastauksen perusteella. Deamondin linkissä tosiaan on jäljitelmä. Kaikki vaihtoehdot on tosi pitkiä, kyllä vaikeeksi menee :-)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jussi Rosti: rottinkikoristeltu kori
36 mins
  -> Olet oikeassa, kiitos!

neutral  Desmond O'Rourke: kyseessä on maalaus ei rottinkia
51 mins
  -> Please read my second link about how Locke & Co invented the method.
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