Is discord going to show itself while we are still fighting?

Chinese translation: ゴい穦陪瞷硂妓ぃ㎝伏琌礢びぃΤ基盾

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English term or phrase:	Is discord going to show itself while we are still fighting?
Chinese translation:	ゴい穦陪瞷硂妓ぃ㎝伏琌礢びぃΤ基盾
Entered by:	Wenjer Leuschel (X)

14:14 Jan 6, 2005

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English term or phrase: Is discord going to show itself while we are still fighting?

A quote from Ann Frank. I don't get the meaning of this sentence so I hope someone can help. Thanks!

Gloria (Shufen) Huang (X) KudoZ activity Questions: 111 (none open) (8 closed without grading) Answers: 15 Taiwan
Local time: 06:10

FYI

Explanation:
Is discord going to show itself while we are still fighting, is the Jew once again worth less than another? Oh, it is sad, very sad, that once more, for the umpteenth time, the old truth is confirmed: What one Christian does is his own responsibility, what one Jew does is thrown back at all Jews.
Frank, Anne
Judaism and Jews

硂琿ゅ癬莱赣琵種睲贰ㄇ

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腊高拜璣紈亩http://www.proz.com/kudoz/906226
瘤礛ゅ琌颤孽ゅJohanna т琌 1944 きるらら癘
Daniela т紈ゅ陆亩
侯ㄢт紈亩ゅㄓいゅ種
驹ぇい碞陪硂妓ぃ㎝伏琌礢びぃΤ基痷琌獶盽磀玸Ω產弧ぃぶΩ膀服畕︽琌パ璽砫礢び︽玥璶パ砰礢びㄓ踞讽

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颤孽ゅ籔紈ゅиゑ耕獺紈亩は谋眔璣亩Τㄇ好竡

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璣亩種琌
驹い穦陪瞷硂妓ぃ㎝伏琌礢びぃΤ基盾痷琌獶盽磀玸Ω產弧ぃぶΩ膀服畕︽琌パ璽砫礢び︽玥璶パ砰礢びㄓ踞讽

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矪禟ゅи或氮常砆и临琌 ProZ  KudoZ 穦ゑ耕眔痷タ腊

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и琌硂柑竒筁瓣亩癚阶亩セ穦眔ゑ耕タ絋氮Τゲ璶拜颤璣/璣颤璣の颤紈/紈颤陆亩眔来ゅ笵或秆弄璣亩

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ぃ矪拜肈ㄢ charge 常琌 \"ヴ叭\" 種璶弧琌 \"戮砫\" ┪ \"砫ヴ\" ︽材 charge 琌 \"砫\" 種﹁よゅ柑酚硂êゅセ柑迭┦﹁痁ゅ carga ⌒ 硂迭碞琌眖 cargar 硂笆迭锣筁ㄓ㎝璣ゅ迭 charge 眖笆迭 charge 锣筁ㄓ妓翴瞶秆拜肈⊿Τ ⌒ 常琌 \"砫ヴぇ\" 種┮瞶秆 \"砫\" ぃ弧琌岿粇\"砫ヴぇ\" ぃタ琌 \"砫ヴ\" 盾

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闽 discord 硂琌壁竤ぃ㎝伏癸 Analies Marie Frank (虏嘿 Anne Frank) τē妮礢び壁竤ネ紈瓣猭孽褐担ê柑ㄓ產穐﹊吹疭う稼瑆壁竤羉セ㎝伏矪讽紈瓣洪玱рず场拜肈锣儿倒礢び防礢び暗笆も琿
虫虫碞 Anne Frank  1944  5 る 22 ら糶ら癘ゅセㄓ紈亩ゅ竡耕睲璣亩瘤穦硑Θ猍竡秆猂ゅ猭临琌弄来
и眎璶キ龟粂ē陆亩キ龟粂ēê贺临⊿Τ瞶秆硓过獽ㄏノ玁粂ēㄓ暗陆亩ρ龟弧и琌ぃ礛

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禗AnNalies Marie Frank ら癘Τ砛\胔好琌硑き烦ぃび糶ê或瞏裸稱砛\琌驹琘ㄇ裹陪洪ぃ竡级硂或セら癘

高拜璣ゅ亩硂琌よ猭и竒腊高拜颤紈/紈颤亩临单氮砛\拜拜颤璣/璣颤亩穦еㄇ眔氮

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颤ゅ亩氮http://www.proz.com/kudoz/907911

The exact phrasing of the sentence you mentioned above is as follows:

En begint er nog tijdens dat gevecht al tweedracht te komen, is toch de jood weer minder dan de ander? O, het is treurig, heel treurig, dat weer voor de zoveelste maal de oude wijsheid bevestigd is: wat één christen doet, moet hij zelf verantwoorden, wat één jood doet, valt op alle joden terug.

ゑ癸紈亩

Beginnt während des Kampfes schon die Zwietracht, ist doch wieder der Jude weniger als die anderen? Ja, es ist traurig, sehr traurig, dass wieder, zum soundsovielten Mal, der alte Spruch bestätigt wird: Was ein Christ tut, muss er selbst verantworten, was ein Jude tut, fällt auf alle Juden zurück.

秨繷颤ゅ琌ぃ琌钩紈ゅ㎡Τ翴钩辉玭粂㎝產杠畉㎡

Selected response from:

Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Taiwan
Local time: 06:10

Grading comment

Thank you for your detailed answers. Unfortunately, I don't read German and Dutch. It's hard for me to compare. I asked a coworker of mine and she thought your translation of the sentence in question seems positive too.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

See explanation

waynechaw

FYI

Wenjer Leuschel (X)

Discussion entries: 11

Non-ProZ.com

You've been very helpful.

14:21 Jan 12, 2005

I really appreciate it.

Wenjer Leuschel (X)

Taiwan

All other speculations about the context would be just speculation. And I do not mind whatever the others say about it. Opinions are free. I hope that you are well helped.

14:03 Jan 11, 2005

Wenjer Leuschel (X)

Taiwan

There are two key words: "gevecht" and "tweedracht" in Dutch in correspondance to "Kampf" and "Zwietracht" in German. These two words in both sentence struture of Dutch and German are definitely to be interpreted the way I did in Chinese.

14:02 Jan 11, 2005

Non-ProZ.com

To Wenjer: I see what you mean by �t�B now.

14:45 Jan 7, 2005

Now I am a bit embarrassed. I'll ask for an English reply later as you suggested. Thank you for your kind help and also for your answer to my other Q!

Wenjer Leuschel (X)

Taiwan

Just take a close look at the sentence or ask the European translators simply as an English question and you will have the right answer pretty soon.

12:47 Jan 7, 2005

Wenjer Leuschel (X)

Taiwan

"��D�ڭ�٭n�A�۸̤϶ܡH"
This is a good great joke for the European translators.
I mean, you are better helped at KudoZ.
The first sentence is a question. My translation is as well a question with "�ܡH".

12:46 Jan 7, 2005

Non-ProZ.com

12:30 Jan 7, 2005

BTW, �ڪ��D��O�bProZ��KudoZ�X�{�ܡH

Non-ProZ.com

12:29 Jan 7, 2005

So perhaps the English translation isn't faithful enough to make it easy to understand. I still wonder about your translation though. The sentence listed above is a question, while your translation of it is a naratioin. How about "��D�ڭ�٭n�A�۸̤϶ܡH"

Non-ProZ.com

Thank you, Wenjer, for going through all the trouble.

12:22 Jan 7, 2005

Non-ProZ.com

Thank you, Wenjer, for quoting the whole paragraph.

02:43 Jan 7, 2005

However, that's where I found it and I just don't understand what it's talking about.

Non-ProZ.com

Thank you, Wenjer, for quoting the whole paragraph.

02:26 Jan 7, 2005

However, that's where I found it and I just don't understand what it's talking about.

Answers

3 hrs confidence:

is discord going to show itself while we are still fighting? See explanation

Explanation:
I think it can be translated as the following:
螟笵讽籔寄癸к,иず场籔侥临ぃキ盾?

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