nos incluimos (in this context)

English translation: get inside

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Spanish term or phrase:	nos incluimos (in this context)
English translation:	get inside
Entered by:	Eileen Brophy

22:18 Mar 23, 2017

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Marketing - Marketing / Market Research / Market Research project

Spanish term or phrase: nos incluimos (in this context)

Does this mean that, within the research, they include themselves
as part of the families being studied or does it have a different meaning, that escapes my understanding?
It seems rather strange for a research company to include themselves in a project!!

Thank you.....

This is the context:

Con las Etnográficas nos incluimos en su contexto natural, en su familia, en su vida.
Capturamos el lenguaje, el discurso, las expectativas, deseos, frustraciones…y también los lugares, los rincones,
espacios dónde se dan esas vivencias familiares

Eileen Brophy KudoZ activity Questions: 803 (none open) (56 closed without grading) Answers: 931 Spain
Local time: 17:19

get inside

Explanation:
(Explanation: I thought of this earlier but didn't have time to post it, and meanwhile Ana posted a similar idea which I thought was good so I was going to leave it. But she's suggested I post it, and I suppose it's useful to have a range of options to choose from.)

I entirely agree with Bea and Ana about the meaning. This is how I would express it, and it's used in the literature on ethnographic research. Since it's a bit informal in register, it's sometimes put in inverted commas in academic texts, but in your context I don't think that's probably necessary.

"As Hammersley states, “The task [of ethnographers] is to document the culture, the perspectives and practices, of the people in these settings. The aim is to ‘get inside’ the way each group of people sees the world."
Scott Reeves, Ayelet Kuper, Brian David Hodges, "Qualitative research methodologies: ethnography"
http://www.allgemeinmedizin.uni-jena.de/content/education/eq...

"one of its central research goals: to "get inside" the world of program participants and to understand, describe, and explain the program and its effects from participants' points of view"
Donald W. Dorr-Bremme, "Ethnographic Evaluation: A Theory and Method"
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1164004?seq=1#page_scan_tab_cont...

"If we want to find out what people know, we must get inside their heads. Although difficult, “this should not be an impossible feat""
James P. Spradley, The Ethnographic Interview, 8
https://books.google.es/books?id=KZ3lCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8...

"In order to understand the social world we need to get inside the heads of the individuals or groups we study"
Karen O'Reilly, Ethnographic Methods, 53
https://books.google.es/books?id=ncCLAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA53&lpg=PA...

Selected response from:

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 17:19

Grading comment

Thanks very much for your help Charles.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +3

get inside

Charles Davis

3 +3

we immerse ourselves

Ana Vozone

we get involved/we take part in

Toni Castano

we penetrate

patinba

included

jude dabo

we act as participant-observers in their natural environment

Robert Forstag

Summary of reference entries provided

Entrevistas etnográficas

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro

Discussion entries: 5

Answers

10 mins confidence:

we get involved/we take part in

Explanation:
No, I do not think it means what you think, but rather that the researchers get involved/take part actively in all those items mentioned.

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Note added at 16 mins (2017-03-23 22:34:57 GMT)
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Yes, Eileen, I think this could be one possible option (among others).

Toni Castano
Spain
Local time: 17:19
Does not meet criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish

Notes to answerer

Asker: So, Toni, I could translate is as "we actively take part in..." ?

28 mins confidence:

included

Explanation:
With ethnograhics,we are included(we are part of it) in its natural context,in its family and in its life.

This is certainly a branch of anthropplogy dealing with the scientific description of individual culture and way of life.

jude dabo
Local time: 16:19
Does not meet criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

1 hr confidence:

nos incluimos en su contexto natural we act as participant-observers in their natural environment

Explanation:
"Participant-observation" is a common research method and concept in the social sciences, and it sounds like this is what is being referred to here.

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 11:19
Meets criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 220

9 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

we immerse ourselves

Explanation:
Another suggestion.

Ana Vozone
Local time: 16:19
Does not meet criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 24

13 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

get inside

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 17:19
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 64

Grading comment

Thanks very much for your help Charles.

20 hrs confidence:

we penetrate

Explanation:
Used in this context and needs no inverted commas.

Researching marginalised young people: Ethnography and Education ...
www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17457823.2013.766433?s...
Feb 20, 2013 - Ethnographers penetrate people's lives, and consequently the specifics involving the participants need contemplation. Their individual ...

Penetrating social worlds: conducting ethnographic research ... - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16840086
by D Moore - ‎1992 - ‎Cited by 18 - ‎Related articles
Drug Alcohol Rev. 1992;11(3):313-23. Penetrating social worlds: conducting ethnographic research into alcohol and other drug use within Australia. Moore D(1).
Maltreatment of Patients in Nursing Homes: There Is No Safe Place
https://books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=1136419675
Diana Harris, ‎Harold G Koenig - 2012 - ‎Social Science
Skilled ethnographers can penetrate the inner workings of an organization and uncover much that may not be readily apparent to casual observers. The second ..

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 12:19
Does not meet criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 80

Reference comments

35 mins peer agreement (net): +5

Reference: Entrevistas etnográficas

Reference information:
Creo "las etnográficas" se refiere a este tipo de entrevistas:
https://jbiencinto.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/entrevistas-etno...
el autor defiende que las técnicas cualitativas “clásicas” (los grupos de discusión, las entrevistas en profundidad…) son insuficientes cuando el reto es la innovación y propone utilizar “nuevas” técnicas; en particular, las entrevistas etnográficas porque entiende que permiten llegar a dimensiones clave en el conocimiento de los usuarios: sus actitudes, las actividades que practica, sus necesidades, sus motivaciones…
Curiosamente, desde hace un tiempo, los datos del sector (y la demanda que me llega a mí) indican que las etnográficas gozan de un creciente atractivo por parte de quienes contratan investigación.

En cualquier caso, "nos incluimos" debe interpretarse como "nos introducimos".

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Note added at 58 mins (2017-03-23 23:17:30 GMT)
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Hi Eileen, "enter" is perfect.

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-03-23 23:30:29 GMT)
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Los investigadores no se convierten en parte de la familia sino que observan a la familia desde dentro.

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Does not meet criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish

Note to reference poster

Asker: "We enter" would be a good option then Beatriz?

Asker: Or "we become part of?"

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