italiano: presto e presta toccate le scritttura come di legge e praticainglés translation: with our hands on the Holy Writ, according to law and practice  KudoZ The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators ... More  |
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| Entrada de glosario (tomada de la pregunta de abajo) | | Término o frase en italiano: | toccate le scrittura come di legge e pratica | | Traducción al inglés: | with our hands on the Holy Writ, according to law and practice | | Aportado por: | Isabel Booth |
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Law/Patents - Certificados, diplomas, títulos, CV / power of attorney | | Término o frase en italiano: presto e presta toccate le scritttura come di legge e pratica | Sorry it is more than one word, but I just don't get it. Does it mean that the notary will be registering the oath soon?
The full sentence is:
Per la piena osservanza delle quali cose tutte il su costituito obbliga se stesso beni ragioni ed azioni nella forma più valida di legge e guarentigia, con tutte le solite e più opportune clausole cautele consensi e rinunce il tutto confermando con giuramento che a mia delazione presto e presta toccate le scritttura come di legge e pratica |
|  Isabel BoothActividad en KudoZPreguntas hechas: 20 (todas cerradas) ( 1 without valid answers) ( 1 closed without grading) Respuestas: 100
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| Clarification request(s) and responseFrancesca Callegari: 09:30 Feb 1, 2006: ma chi è, Azzeccagarbugli dei Promessi Sposi? :) Buona fortuna! -
Isabel Booth: 09:35 Feb 1, 2006: E' un notaio - help!!!
skardo: 09:42 Feb 1, 2006: Try and translate it back into spanish, that might help. -
Isabel Booth: 09:46 Feb 1, 2006: Skardo- thanks for the suggestion, but why Spanish? I was thinking more of double dutch!
Isabel Booth: 10:00 Feb 1, 2006: Hey Skardo? Are you a telepathic or something? There are 2 sentences in Spanish at end of the doc ...
Jo Macdonald: 10:20 Feb 1, 2006: Hi IC,
That’s totally incomprehensible. The original doesn’t make sense. I would send it back and ask for a good original; otherwise the translation will just be guesswork.
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Isabel Booth: 10:28 Feb 1, 2006: Thanks Jo, at least I know I'm not a complete idjit....how's things?
Jo Macdonald: 10:36 Feb 1, 2006: Nice and easy here, thanks mate. Have fun wrestling with those two drunken Dutchmen. ;-) -
adv Linguado: 11:49 Feb 1, 2006: Dal bizantino (periodo invasione unna) all'italiano umano e' traducibile facilmente: per la versione in britanno riformato,:) c'e' da lavorarci qualche ora. Contattami via Proz.Com vedemo che se po' fa' :)
Ciao -
skardo: 12:54 Feb 1, 2006: nope, not telepathic... I noticed "guarentigia" which rang a bell! -
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| | my attempt | Explicación:
Let me begin by saying that IMHO you might well accept adv.Linguado's proposal: archaic Italian is quite full of traps - (your former HELL is nothing compared to this...) - and enrolling the help of a native Italian speaker with the right cultural background can be a good way to go.
Anyway, more for fun than for anything else, I'm trying to offer a starting point.
You should construct the part from "confermando" to "presto" more or less as follows: "confermando (all the above) con un giuramento che qui io presto a mia delazione" - were "presto" is the present tense of the verb "prestare"; "prestare giuramento" means simply "giurare"; and "a mia delazione" should mean something as "under pain of denouncing myself for perjury".
The whole means something like "as sealed by my solemn oath, under pain of perjury to myself" - excuse my bad English, it's just to give you a hint.
I take that the following "e presta toccate le scrittura come di legge e pratica" ends with the name (or quality) of another person who also swears ("presta giuramento") as a witness.
Then, the rest is easy :-)
"toccate le scritture" means "with my hand on the Holy Writ" amd "come di legge e pratica" is something like "as the laws and usual practices request".
Thus the whole (from "confermando...") must be something on the lines of:
as sealed by my own solemn oath, under pain of perjury and confirmed by the oath of XX, made with our hands on the Holy Writ, according to laws and practices
Where XX is the person named or referred to at the end of the sentence (if my hypothesys is correct, of course)
As for Spanish, you probably know that a great part of Italy has long been under Spanish domination or influence, and a certain Italian penchant for orotund verbiage is commonly attributed to that influence (Personally, I suspect it was a 2-way exchange, though...)
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| Respuesta elegida de:
Alfredo Tutino
Italia
Local time: 03:40
| Nota de quien pregunta a quien contesta| 4 puntos KudoZ otorgados a esta respuesta |
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3 horas Nivel de confianza:   Coincidencias de otros usuarios (netas) +2 |
| my attempt
Explicación:
Let me begin by saying that IMHO you might well accept adv.Linguado's proposal: archaic Italian is quite full of traps - (your former HELL is nothing compared to this...) - and enrolling the help of a native Italian speaker with the right cultural background can be a good way to go.
Anyway, more for fun than for anything else, I'm trying to offer a starting point.
You should construct the part from "confermando" to "presto" more or less as follows: "confermando (all the above) con un giuramento che qui io presto a mia delazione" - were "presto" is the present tense of the verb "prestare"; "prestare giuramento" means simply "giurare"; and "a mia delazione" should mean something as "under pain of denouncing myself for perjury".
The whole means something like "as sealed by my solemn oath, under pain of perjury to myself" - excuse my bad English, it's just to give you a hint.
I take that the following "e presta toccate le scrittura come di legge e pratica" ends with the name (or quality) of another person who also swears ("presta giuramento") as a witness.
Then, the rest is easy :-)
"toccate le scritture" means "with my hand on the Holy Writ" amd "come di legge e pratica" is something like "as the laws and usual practices request".
Thus the whole (from "confermando...") must be something on the lines of:
as sealed by my own solemn oath, under pain of perjury and confirmed by the oath of XX, made with our hands on the Holy Writ, according to laws and practices
Where XX is the person named or referred to at the end of the sentence (if my hypothesys is correct, of course)
As for Spanish, you probably know that a great part of Italy has long been under Spanish domination or influence, and a certain Italian penchant for orotund verbiage is commonly attributed to that influence (Personally, I suspect it was a 2-way exchange, though...)
:-)
| Alfredo Tutino
Italia
Local time: 03:40
Idioma materno: italiano
Pts. PRO en la categoría: 4
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| Notas al usuario que envió la respuesta
Usuario que pregunta: Alfredo, what can I say? My hat off to you as I humbly bow in mute yet absolute acquiescence...actually the sentence ends with "pratica", so I've no XX, but I've sent in my "version" anyway with a covering note for this Hellish job (full of typos). Thanks a million for your time!
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