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Wordfast Pro 4 Online Beta Program
Thread poster: Kristyna Marrero
Kristyna Marrero
Kristyna Marrero  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 21:34
Dec 4, 2013

Hi Everyone,

As you may know, we will be releasing Wordfast Pro 4, a major upgrade to our standalone, platform-independent TM tool, in early 2014. Wordfast is pleased to announce our WFP4 beta program, which will give all translators free web-based access to the software. Wordfast Pro 4 Online (WFP4o) will now be available for testing inside of your web-browser through your Wordfast Anywhere account. If you wish to test WFP4o but you do not have a Wordfast Anywhere account, you c
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Hi Everyone,

As you may know, we will be releasing Wordfast Pro 4, a major upgrade to our standalone, platform-independent TM tool, in early 2014. Wordfast is pleased to announce our WFP4 beta program, which will give all translators free web-based access to the software. Wordfast Pro 4 Online (WFP4o) will now be available for testing inside of your web-browser through your Wordfast Anywhere account. If you wish to test WFP4o but you do not have a Wordfast Anywhere account, you can register for a free account at www.freetm.com.

From inside of your Wordfast Anywhere workspace, you can access WFP4o by going to file > switch to WFP4o. This will open the document you are translating inside of WFP4o. Please note: WFP4o uses the TMs, glossaries, files, and settings in your Wordfast Anywhere account so all file management must be done inside of Wordfast Anywhere. You cannot add TMs, glossaries or upload files directly to WFP4o. Additionally, as WFP4o is a BETA VERSION, you are likely to encounter some bugs or issues. We hope you will help us improve the platform by reporting any problems you encounter. You can view a list of known issues below.

To report feedback, please go to the Help tab and click ‘Feedback’. The feedback will be reviewed by our development team for implementation into the desktop version of the software, which is scheduled to be released next year.

The Wordfast Anywhere/WFP4o platform offers users a confidential, password-protected workspace on Wordfast’s centralized server. As always, any material entrusted to the Wordfast server (TMs, glossaries, files, personal information, etc.) remains strictly confidential and is never shared with any third party.

If you have any questions, please contact me directly.

Sincerely,

Kristyna



Known Issues
Cannot switch back | Placeables mismatch
Find Target action doesn't work
Tm that disabled is visible in Tm List dialog
Spelling can edit source
Segment statuses are not remembered after switching from WFA to WFP4o
Value for penalties isn't same in the WFP4o and WFA
Specific segment can't be committted
Cannot commit specific segment
Cannot select text using mouse
Cannot see revisions from WFA
Remove path to Transcheck report form Transcheck Report dialog
Buttons in End of doc dialog do not have response
TM Lookup results aren't shown properly
Translation isn't shown properly in Tm lookup in file with specific letters
Quotes are not shown properly in TM Lookup
Cannot insert(copy) term by clicking on suggestion
Alt key refreshes editor
Notes cannot be deleted
Cannot remove added forbidden char
Preferences settings should be remembered on switching form WFA to WFP4o
Added notes are deleted after switching to WFA
No results found message appears after clicking on Tm lookup button
User is able to open few segments at same time
Notification misses if user tries to open no exiting segment from Go to segment dialog
(IE9): Tag cannot be selected on mouse click
(IE9): Shortcut for next/previous tag doesn't work
Scroll bar appears afters DnD placeables
Segments have translation in WFA after clear all target action is preformed in WFP4o
Preferences are closed after 5 seconds when user changes layout options from preferences
Cursor is moving to the beginning of segment after hiting "Space" when target language is Arabic
Searched word is colored differently in Target
Cursor isn't visible after the content of segment is deleted
Missing cursor after closing message "Segment is modified, do you want to overwrite it?"
(IE9): Scroll bar appears if user selects placeable
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Gyula Erdesz
Gyula Erdesz
Hungary
Local time: 03:34
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English to Hungarian
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WFP4 Dec 4, 2013

Wow. Really promising. I am really happy for the separate terminology window.

One question: will the new version be available for 64bit Linux systems?

Regards,
Gyula


 
B D Finch
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France
Local time: 03:34
French to English
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Bad news from Wordfast Dec 5, 2013

Call me old-fashioned, but I do not want to have all my work files on-line for two reasons: security and convenience. Security, because whatever the assurances I only believe that my files are safe and confidential when they are on my own machine. Convenience, because I want to be able to work without necessarily being on-line (Internet downtime, being away from home without a secure/any Internet connection).
If Wordfast replaces the current Wordfast Pro with a cloud system, I shall be l
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Call me old-fashioned, but I do not want to have all my work files on-line for two reasons: security and convenience. Security, because whatever the assurances I only believe that my files are safe and confidential when they are on my own machine. Convenience, because I want to be able to work without necessarily being on-line (Internet downtime, being away from home without a secure/any Internet connection).
If Wordfast replaces the current Wordfast Pro with a cloud system, I shall be looking for different CAT tool.

[Edited at 2013-12-05 10:35 GMT]

[Edited at 2013-12-05 10:35 GMT]
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Dominique Pivard
Dominique Pivard  Identity Verified
Local time: 04:34
Finnish to French
Misunderstanding Dec 5, 2013

B D Finch wrote:
If Wordfast replaces the current Wordfast Pro with a cloud system, I shall be looking for different CAT tool.

I believe there's a misunderstanding here: Wordfast Pro 4 Online is a new addition to the Wordfast product range, not a replacement of Wordfast Pro 3. The successor to Wordfast Pro 3 will be Wordfast Pro 4. There's already a Windows and a Mac beta version available: it's a Java application, like Wordfast Pro 3, only with a new and fancier user interface.

Once the dust settles, there will be four different Wordfast clients to choose from (if I got it right):

  • Classic
  • Pro
  • Anywhere
  • Pro Online

Pro 4 Online can be considered as a "preview" of the full-fledged Pro 4 that you can install on your local drive.


 
Hedwig Spitzer (X)
Hedwig Spitzer (X)  Identity Verified
Peru
French to Spanish
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Important clarification Dec 5, 2013

Thank you very much Dominic for your explanation! I also misunderstood the first message and started thinking of getting a new standalone CAT tool.

Cheers!


 
Kristyna Marrero
Kristyna Marrero  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 21:34
TOPIC STARTER
Answers Dec 5, 2013

Hi,

To answer Gyula's question, we will offer a Linux 64-bit version of Wordfast Pro 4 but not the initial release. I will keep you posted on when that will be available.

Also, to address Hedwig's concern, as Dominique mentioned, the online version of Wordfast Pro 4 is simply to make the version accessible for beta testing. The official release will be a desktop product.

Thanks for your feedback,

Sincerely,

Kristyna


 
Gyula Erdesz
Gyula Erdesz
Hungary
Local time: 03:34
Member (2009)
English to Hungarian
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insolvable discrepancy Dec 17, 2013

Kristyna Marrero wrote:

we will offer a Linux 64-bit version of Wordfast Pro 4 but not the initial release.


I am really sorry to hear that, Krystina.

I believe most of us need more than 2 GB of RAM nowadays and most of us use therefore 64 bit OS. One can say this is the standard in 2013.

Just take a look at Ubuntu's download page:

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

First place: 64 bit version.
Second place: 32 bit version.

Same with Fedora:

http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora

First place: 64 bit version
Second place: other platforms

In my opinion, if you do not support 64 bit versions Linux, you practically do not support Linux at all. And in this case your slogan "The #1 standalone translation memory tool for ANY platform" is nothing more than marketing.

Regards,
Gyula


 
Michael Beijer
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United Kingdom
Local time: 02:34
Member (2009)
Dutch to English
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@Gyula: Dec 17, 2013

I think you might have misunderstood Kristyna.

She wrote:
'To answer Gyula's question, we will offer a Linux 64-bit version of Wordfast Pro 4 but not the initial release. I will keep you posted on when that will be available.'
I take this to mean that Wordfast will be releasing a 64-bit Linux version, they just won't be releasing it immediately.

You seem to be saying that they won't release one at all.

Michael


 
Gyula Erdesz
Gyula Erdesz
Hungary
Local time: 03:34
Member (2009)
English to Hungarian
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Longer story... Dec 17, 2013

Hello Michael

Thank you for your input. This is a longer story than you might think. Please read the following threads:

08.2012:

http://www.proz.com/forum/wordfast_support/230068-announcing_the_release_of_wordfast_pro_31.html

11.2012:
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Hello Michael

Thank you for your input. This is a longer story than you might think. Please read the following threads:

08.2012:

http://www.proz.com/forum/wordfast_support/230068-announcing_the_release_of_wordfast_pro_31.html

11.2012:

http://www.proz.com/forum/wordfast_support/238166-trying_to_run_wfpro_311_version_for_linux_on_ubuntu_1004_lts.html

In the latter Yasmin Moslem, support specialist of Wordfast promised that WFP4 would support 64 bit Linux.

My biggest problem is the unbridgeable difference between the promised and the real features of Wordfast Pro.

Promise:
"The #1 standalone translation memory tool for any platform"

Reality:
Wordfast has never supported 64 bit OS Linux. And it seems that it will not be for a long time.

If your build up a marketing strategy on the platform independent nature of your product, then you should develop it for all the main computer platforms (Win, Mac, Linux). So simple.

Regards,
Gyula


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Yasmin Moslem
Yasmin Moslem  Identity Verified
Egypt
Local time: 03:34
English to Arabic
WFP 4 for Linux 64-bit Dec 17, 2013

Dear Gyula,

We do apologise for any inconvenience.

There is another "long story" that might explain that. WF Pro 4 uses (some) different technologies that WF Pro 1.x, 2.x, and 3.x have not been using. That is why WF Pro 4 is expected to have long-awaited fixes, and time of "coming soon" will make better sense.

I agree with you that currently several users would prefer to use the 64-bit versions of Linux, or at least such trend is getting spread, especially
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Dear Gyula,

We do apologise for any inconvenience.

There is another "long story" that might explain that. WF Pro 4 uses (some) different technologies that WF Pro 1.x, 2.x, and 3.x have not been using. That is why WF Pro 4 is expected to have long-awaited fixes, and time of "coming soon" will make better sense.

I agree with you that currently several users would prefer to use the 64-bit versions of Linux, or at least such trend is getting spread, especially with the new releases of Linux applications supporting 64-bit Linux. So I believe WF Pro developers will take this into consideration.

As always, many thanks for your continuous feedback!

Kind regards,
Yasmin
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Gyula Erdesz
Gyula Erdesz
Hungary
Local time: 03:34
Member (2009)
English to Hungarian
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Any news? May 5, 2014

Kristyna Marrero wrote:

Hi Everyone,

As you may know, we will be releasing Wordfast Pro 4, a major upgrade to our standalone, platform-independent TM tool, in early 2014.


Hello,

Any news on this project? I really love the layout of the beta tool and would like to know when the final version will be released.

Thank you in advance,

Gyula


 
Kristyna Marrero
Kristyna Marrero  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 21:34
TOPIC STARTER
WFP and 64-bit Linux May 12, 2014

Hi Gyula,

The release of Wordfast Pro 4 has been delayed so that we can gather more feedback from our beta testers. For those interested in beta testing, you can access a browser-based version of Wordfast Pro 4 through your Wordfast anywhere workspace - www.freetm.com > File menu > Switch to WFP4 Online Beta. We will update you on the scheduled release date as soon as possible.

You will be
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Hi Gyula,

The release of Wordfast Pro 4 has been delayed so that we can gather more feedback from our beta testers. For those interested in beta testing, you can access a browser-based version of Wordfast Pro 4 through your Wordfast anywhere workspace - www.freetm.com > File menu > Switch to WFP4 Online Beta. We will update you on the scheduled release date as soon as possible.

You will be happy to know that we have added support for 64-bit linux in WFP version 3.4.1 which we will release in the coming weeks. If you wish to download the beta version, please contact me directly and I will send it to you.

Sincerely,

Kristyna
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Gyula Erdesz
Gyula Erdesz
Hungary
Local time: 03:34
Member (2009)
English to Hungarian
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wonderful May 12, 2014



You will be happy to know that we have added support for 64-bit linux in WFP version 3.4.1 which we will release in the coming weeks.



Wonderful news, thank you very much, Krystina!


 
Sam Abramov
Sam Abramov
Russian Federation
Local time: 08:34
English to Russian
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features Jun 4, 2014

Hi,
Can anyone give a rundown of features of wfp4o or, at least, tell the difference between wfa and wfp4o. I can settle for a link:)


 
Juan Manuel Macarlupu Peña
Juan Manuel Macarlupu Peña  Identity Verified
Argentina
Local time: 22:34
English to Spanish
Bold, Italics, Underline in WFP4? Aug 15, 2014

Hello Everyone,
As you probably know, one of the most awaited features in Wordfast, and one that has delayed a lot of translators from moving definitely to Wordfast is the impossibility of formatting target text in segments where there's no such formatting in the source and therefore there are no tags.
I've been reviewing WFP4o to get familiar with the software and to write about it in my blog, but I don't see those options have been added.
Anyone has any information on wether
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Hello Everyone,
As you probably know, one of the most awaited features in Wordfast, and one that has delayed a lot of translators from moving definitely to Wordfast is the impossibility of formatting target text in segments where there's no such formatting in the source and therefore there are no tags.
I've been reviewing WFP4o to get familiar with the software and to write about it in my blog, but I don't see those options have been added.
Anyone has any information on wether this options are currently available or will be in the desktop release?
Krystina, is there any way to test the desktop version of WFP4?
Thanks!
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