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Jon Hedemann 
Denmark
Local time: 03:44
English to Danish
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| Interesting business practice | Jun 9, 2014 |
So more than 50 % of Proz.com translators intentionally overcharge their clients. Interesting business practice.
| | | | Edward Potter
Spain
Local time: 03:44
Member (2003)
Spanish to English
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Jon Hedemann wrote:
So more than 50 % of Proz.com translators intentionally overcharge their clients. Interesting business practice.
He he. Stirring the pot there with your provoking comment, Jon, aren't you?
Alright, let's get the discussion going. Please explain how translators "intentionally overcharge their clients".
[Edited at 2014-06-09 21:53 GMT]
| | | | Sheila Wilson
Spain
Local time: 02:44
Member (2007)
English
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I assume you're basing your comment on the poll result that states that just over 50% of translators give discounts for repetitions, but only if the client asks for this.
Does this mean that the rest of us are overcharging? Or does it mean that the "yes" group are bowing to the demands of the client (which is a pretty strange concept)? Just because many freelancers believe they have to do as their "employer" demands does not in any way legitimise handing over the gains from investin... See more I assume you're basing your comment on the poll result that states that just over 50% of translators give discounts for repetitions, but only if the client asks for this.
Does this mean that the rest of us are overcharging? Or does it mean that the "yes" group are bowing to the demands of the client (which is a pretty strange concept)? Just because many freelancers believe they have to do as their "employer" demands does not in any way legitimise handing over the gains from investing time and money in a CAT tool to the client. That investment should enable us to be more flexible in our pricing as well as adding quality controls; it shouldn't result in our exploitation. Or maybe you think differently. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Rebecca Garber
Local time: 21:44
Member (2005)
German to English
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| In response to Jon | Jun 10, 2014 |
I commonly work from pdf files. If there is a large block of identical text, then I will often call it to the attention of the project manager (since I rarely work for direct clients).
However, since I have to type each word, regardless of repetition, then I believe that I should be compensated for that time.
Also, 90% identical in a CAT tool still means that a human has to find the difference.
The only time I 'offer' discounts for repetition is if I am ... See more I commonly work from pdf files. If there is a large block of identical text, then I will often call it to the attention of the project manager (since I rarely work for direct clients).
However, since I have to type each word, regardless of repetition, then I believe that I should be compensated for that time.
Also, 90% identical in a CAT tool still means that a human has to find the difference.
The only time I 'offer' discounts for repetition is if I am using a CAT tool and the client has requested that pricing.
None of this seems to bother my clients, so apparently they don't feel cheated. ▲ Collapse
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Luiz Barucke
Brazil
Local time: 22:44
Spanish to Portuguese
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| CAT tools and proofreading | Jun 10, 2014 |
The advantage of repetitions depends on the cat tool used to work. Wordfast Pro for example has an useful and time-saving way to manage reps and auto propagations, so the translation job gets easier and faster.
Trados - especially 2007 - is terrible in this field and changing an already translated sentence sometimes makes you loose more time than just translating it again.
In proofreading, reps are not so relevant, considering you will have to read them all carefully an... See more The advantage of repetitions depends on the cat tool used to work. Wordfast Pro for example has an useful and time-saving way to manage reps and auto propagations, so the translation job gets easier and faster.
Trados - especially 2007 - is terrible in this field and changing an already translated sentence sometimes makes you loose more time than just translating it again.
In proofreading, reps are not so relevant, considering you will have to read them all carefully and change each sentence anyway.
When the client asks me to make a rate based on repetitions, I consider the text type and content as well as if I have freedom to choose the cat tool to work with before just accepting a discount. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 22:44
Member (2014)
English to Portuguese
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One of the huge issues that CAT tools have introduced into the translation world is this despicable discount based on repetitions. Any outsourcer that determines discounts for repetitions shall NOT outsource services to me.
And we, translators, should be united and say "NO" to this unacceptable practice.
And very well said, Muriel!
[Edited at 2014-07-06 14:36 GMT]
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