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人生 May 17, 2008


Jason Ma wrote:

A story I heard years ago might be related to such situations

Steve, you might have read the story of those football players who survived an aircrash in the Andes. They were forced to survive on the bodies of perished team-mates , yet in the years to come, it was extremely difficult for them to survive their own stories, even though the Pop forgave them.



Sure, I have a DVD or a VHS tape somewhere about that true life story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571


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Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571

Food and water
The survivors had a small amount of food: a few chocolate bars, other assorted snacks, and several bottles of wine. During the days following the crash they divided out this food in very small amounts so as not to exhaust their meager supply. Fito also devised a way to melt snow into water by using metal from the seats and placing snow on it. The snow then melted in the sun and dripped into empty wine bottles.

Even with this strict rationing, their food stock dwindled quickly. Furthermore, there was no natural vegetation or animals on the snow-covered mountain. The group thus survived by collectively making a decision to eat flesh from the bodies of their dead comrades. This decision was not taken lightly, as most were classmates or close friends. In his 2006 book, Miracle in the Andes: 72 Days on the Mountain and My Long Trek Home, Nando Parrado comments on this decision:

“ At high altitude, the body's caloric needs are astronomical ... we were starving in earnest, with no hope of finding food, but our hunger soon grew so voracious that we searched anyway ... again and again we scoured the fuselage in search of crumbs and morsels. We tried to eat strips of leather torn from pieces of luggage, though we knew that the chemicals they'd been treated with would do us more harm than good. We ripped open seat cushions hoping to find straw, but found only inedible upholstery foam ... Again and again I came to the same conclusion: unless we wanted to eat the clothes we were wearing, there was nothing here but aluminium, plastic, ice, and rock. (94-95) ”

All of the passengers were Roman Catholic, a point which was emphasized by Piers Paul Read in Alive. According to Read, some equated the act to the ritual of Holy Communion. Others initially had reservations, though after realizing that it was their only means of staying alive, changed their minds a few days later.


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Democracy May 22, 2008

Sometimes the better guy doesn't necessarily win ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No26XHX6Cxk


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看了这些表演 May 22, 2008

感觉和国内的“超级男生/女生”很接近。是不是“超级男生/女生”翻版American Idol? 以前在youtube上看过一个非裔女孩模仿 Barbara Streisand 唱 Woman in Love,真是唱绝了。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq4p9ucz3Pk


wherestip wrote:

Sometimes the better guy doesn't necessarily win ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No26XHX6Cxk



[Edited at 2008-05-22 13:52]


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美国的American Idol是原版, May 22, 2008


Jason Ma wrote:

感觉和国内的“超级男生/女生”很接近。是不是“超级男生/女生”翻版American Idol? 以前在youtube上看过一个非裔女孩模仿 Barbara Streisand 唱 Woman in Love,真是唱绝了。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq4p9ucz3Pk


wherestip wrote:

Sometimes the better guy doesn't necessarily win ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No26XHX6Cxk



[Edited at 2008-05-22 13:52]


现在很多国家都有自己的翻版。有一阵子了,美国一个台,忘了是哪一个了,还专门把几个国家的各自的 Idol报道了一下。由英国的、法国的、好像还有德国的,还有阿拉伯国家的呢。很有意思。法国当时有一个人在audition的时候(男的)唱麦当娜的宛如处女。逗死人了。国内现在好多节目都是借鉴美国的。湖 南台那个“舞动奇迹”,应该是受了Dancing with the stars的启发。


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今年的Idol没看, May 22, 2008


wherestip wrote:

Sometimes the better guy doesn't necessarily win ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No26XHX6Cxk



所以也不知道哪个更好。但从以往的几季来看,很少能选出唱功最好的。评委们也没办法,进入前十一后,那就是观众说了算了。


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超女 May 22, 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

Tingting,

That's right. The original format was actually from the U.K's "Pop Idol", but it became a hit show in the U.S.

I'm not sure if 超级男生/女生 has anything to do with it. American Idol is mainly looking for singing talent. I remember seeing some clips of a 超女 competition at the end stages. I didn't think it was anything pleasing to the ear.


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and to the eye, too! May 22, 2008


wherestip wrote:


I'm not sure if 超级男生/女生 has anything to do with it. American Idol is mainly looking for singing talent. I remember seeing some clips of a 超女 competition at the end stages. I didn't think it was anything pleasing to the ear.



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isahuang wrote:

今年的Idol没看

所以也不知道哪个更好。但从以往的几季来看,很少能选出唱功最好的。评委们也没办法,进入前十一后,那就是观众说了算了。


我也没看. 不过 我看了星期二晚的最后一场演出. America definitely got it wrong in this instance.

It's not the first time, and I doubt it would be the last.


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I hope the election won't get messed up in November. May 22, 2008


wherestip wrote:


isahuang wrote:

今年的Idol没看

所以也不知道哪个更好。但从以往的几季来看,很少能选出唱功最好的。评委们也没办法,进入前十一后,那就是观众说了算了。


我也没看. 不过 我看了星期二晚的最后一场演出. America definitely got it wrong in this instance.

It's not the first time, and I doubt it would be the last.



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我几乎可以确定超男、超女是美国偶像的翻版 May 22, 2008


wherestip wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

Tingting,

That's right. The original format was actually from the U.K's "Pop Idol", but it became a hit show in the U.S.

I'm not sure if 超级男生/女生 has anything to do with it. American Idol is mainly looking for singing talent. I remember seeing some clips of a 超女 competition at the end stages. I didn't think it was anything pleasing to the ear.



湖南卫视有个节目叫变形记,是把城里的teen跟陕西农村的纯朴少年互换一周,很好看的一个节目。在美国,不换小孩子,换spouse, 湖南卫视可能受了"Wife Swap"的启发。


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翻版 May 22, 2008


isahuang wrote:

我几乎可以确定超男、超女是美国偶像的翻版

湖南卫视有个节目叫变形记,是把城里的teen跟陕西农村的纯朴少年互换一周,很好看的一个节目。在美国,不换小孩子,换spouse, 湖南卫视可能受了"Wife Swap"的启发。



In that case, the judges need to clean the wax out of their ears. (kidding)

That latter show sounds like an experiment of "The Prince and the Pauper".


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美国在pop culture这方面确实是领头羊 May 22, 2008


wherestip wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

Tingting,

That's right. The original format was actually from the U.K's "Pop Idol", but it became a hit show in the U.S.

I'm not sure if 超级男生/女生 has anything to do with it. American Idol is mainly looking for singing talent. I remember seeing some clips of a 超女 competition at the end stages. I didn't think it was anything pleasing to the ear.



Amazing Race不知起源于哪个国家?法国也有同样的节目,叫Pekin Express。差不多两个多星期前的那期节目,参加者到了一个地方,钻进出租车后,司机见他背着旅行包,觉得他是游客想跟他聊聊天,闲扯一下,那个男的不耐烦地跟司机嚷,something like we are not tourists. get your axx going.


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The Amazing Race May 22, 2008

Yes, "The Amazing Race" is a show I like. It gives you a glimpse into different countries and different cultures. For the same reason, I like "The Mole" too. Too bad the bulk of the seasons of these shows are not on DVD.

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The Amazing Race May 22, 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race

This link says it originated here in the U.S.


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